kayla tausche will join us from there in the next half hour. >>> and the fbi and s.e.c. are probing allegations about hewlett-packard's purchase of autonomy. saying it was the victim of a multibillion dollar fraud, they didn't use the word fraud, but every word short of fraud. they say that they were -- they had uncovered huge accounting issues at the british company it bought last year. in the meantime, autonomy founder and former ceo told cnbc he was shocked by these allegations and blamed h.p. for mismanagement. this summer, they were called the ultimate value trap, warning about the alpha conference. h he joined us on the line this morning. >> it was pretty clear if you looked at autonomy's books over time that it was in a very, very aggressive roll-up. it was buying other companies, it was writing them down before it bought them and putting all kinds of good will on its books. which for most accounting mai i way to play earnings games going forward. it appears us to us that's what autonomy was doing. >> he said he watched in horror as hp paid a huge premium on that